Comments on: The shocking truth about immigration….THE subject politicians dont want to debate!

By: mineralstoffe

mineralstoffe — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:12:07 +0000

Immigration is hard to discuss for Conservatives without having the spectre of Enoch Powell’s ’Rivers of Blood speech’, being submitted as a battering ram against any sensible discussion or argument.

By: Left Outside

Left Outside — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:45:32 +0000

What? Nice to be attacked, although at least some people think I am the respectable face of the Left. You should see me swearblog The Mail and The Sun.

The fact is there is nothing apologist in my post. There are a large number of facts which contradict the assumptions in this post. Although I look forward to any response.

@Johnson – Good ad hominem, although considering I’ve written a post which actually attacks Gordon Brown at one point you may look a little foolish.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:29:35 +0000

This truly is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. I didn’t think it was possible to do less than zero research on something but it would appear you’ve done it. Reading this, I actually found myself losing knowledge. Readers would learn more from this page by repeatedly pressing the up and down buttons on their keyboards and starting at the pretty swirls of ineligible words and pictures mashing together as the page goes up, and down, and up, and down again, in a mesmorizing dance of meaninglessness made abstract.

Nice airport pictures though.

By: Sharon Bucks

Sharon Bucks — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:27:38 +0000

I read this yesterday. Great article but I did not comment.

After reading Left alone’s site I felt the need to register that this is a strong post.

By: Johnson

Johnson — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:25:50 +0000

superb article.

And Left Outside. This is factual. Your data is wrong.

You will be telling us next that Gordon Brown has done a great job and is the man who saved the world from depression.

By: Left Outside should Be Left Alone

Left Outside should Be Left Alone — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:24:18 +0000

LOL

Just read the typical apologist arguments of Left Outside. Must say he has gone to a lot of effort in his reply. I hope he is a regular as he at least forms an acdceptable face of the Left.

He is wrong. I will blog why tomorrow.

By: Left Outside

Left Outside — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:36:59 +0000

I don't think you've managed to do the fact based and objective post you aimed for.I've had to reply here. I hope those commenters who thought this was a good post reconsider once they have read this.

By: Duncan Stott

Duncan Stott — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:32:32 +0000

1. Immigration is constantly talked about, particularly in the tabloid newspapers. Damian Green is always happy to provide a shocked-and-appalled quote to make the Tories appear tough.

2. There may be no economic benefit to immigration (actually that report did say there was a small benefit, but for the sake of argument lets say it is negligible), but equally there is no damage done to the economy either. In a free country, the only time we should even contemplate restricting something is if it can be shown it causes damage, therefore the report does not validate immigration restrictions.

By: Tory Aardvark

Tory Aardvark — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:18:40 +0000

One of the best blog posts I have read on immigration.

Hat tipped

By: Thomas Byrne

Thomas Byrne — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:10:31 +0000

“Jobs (rising levels of unemployment, not enough jobs to go round)”

Yay, Lump of Labour Fallacy!

The 70 million number is a load of bollocks too.

http://leftoutside.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/70-million-problems-solved/

While I have reservations about open borders, especially with high government spending, and some intergration issues (At least in the short term) this post is a load of bollocks.

By: Blog man the Wise

Blog man the Wise — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:13:43 +0000

Let’s hope that the Conservative Leadership read this blog piece and these suggestions make it into the manifesto.

By: Jill the Housewife

Jill the Housewife — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:12:54 +0000

Hallejah. This subject tackled factually for once.

By: Ex Iain Dale blog Reader

Ex Iain Dale blog Reader — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:12:06 +0000

BIG issue. Very thought provoking. thanks for posting.

Never realised we were heading to a population of 70 million!

By: Susan

Susan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:11:05 +0000

The one area you do not address is the cultural impact of immigration. This is a delicate area.

So not singling out one particular group but Muslims have their own faith in the UK. Mosques are springing up, (nothing wrong with that). Sharia Law is in place in some parts of the UK, (does this take precedence over UK law?). Which causes integration issues for many UK people.

Again, not a race or colour issue but an issue of social fabric and a source of tension.

By: John Dyke

John Dyke — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:08:04 +0000

This is such a delicate issue. This is a BRILLIANT piece. Delicately handled.

So few blogs tackle this subject area. Good stuff